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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbA9W0eOpbY&feature=youtu.be

2 words "SWEET JESUS" that's hardcore Ev :P

Seems pretty legit.

I second that motion. That gun is the anti-zombie swiss army knife of guns.

I'll always prefer a P90 though.

Only if i can dual wield.

"Only if i can dual wield."

With an AK-47? 7.62 accuracy isn't great on its own... plus the more noise you make, the more THEY are there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5M9Erbp3Y

as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy...

"as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy..."

Thats a very good point. A, melee weapons break less often than guns run out of ammo. B, It may be easier to find a new object to hit zombies with than ammo for your gun.

Also, reserve your gun ammo for non-zombie raiders, who actually are able to use guns on you, unlike zombies. That is saying they are your average run of the mill zombies. But thats another discussion.

"as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy..."

You're going to make noise anyway. Proximity is a bigger enemy than noise. You WILL breathe, you will stumble upon something, or you will trip.

I still think a mounted mini-gun is the perfect way to go about things, ideally with incendiary or HEAT rounds. I'd also appreciate a flame thrower, but I'm not about to think that I could go sneaking around with a machete and handling biz when it really hits the fan.

"Thats a very good point. A, melee weapons break less often than guns run out of ammo. B, It may be easier to find a new object to hit zombies with than ammo for your gun."

I can't hit people with the butt of a rifle and cave their skulls in?

""as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy..."

You're going to make noise anyway. Proximity is a bigger enemy than noise. You WILL breathe, you will stumble upon something, or you will trip.

I still think a mounted mini-gun is the perfect way to go about things, ideally with incendiary or HEAT rounds. I'd also appreciate a flame thrower, but I'm not about to think that I could go sneaking around with a machete and handling biz when it really hits the fan."

well my assumption in zombie apocalypse is that the best route to survival is avoiding confrontation with the enemy (when possible) this means not drawing more of them to you when you have to eliminate some, sure I'll breath/trip or bump into something but I'm quite sure that sound won't carry nearly as far as a chainsaw and rifle fire. now this gun would be great if shit did hit the fan and you have no other option but to blast your way out (though I'd much rather have an under-mounted shotgun in place of that chainsaw), but as for it being my primary weapon in zombie scenarios I'd prefer something that draws less attention, especially if you're following original zombie lore where a single bite, or scratch is all it takes to get turned. (infected bodily fluid meets your blood = you just got infected)
chainsaws seem good until you think about all the zombie blood flying at your face, if it is an infection then a drop of that gets in your mouth or eye and you're likely the next brain eater.also chainsaws are prone to kickback when trying to cut through something too hard (bones) too quickly (quickly enough to not get bit by any other zombie in the area before you get through the first or second enemy) swinging one into a group of zombies or even a single zombie is not going to go the way you see it in movies or games. i used to trim trees and I've seen chainsaws kick back or get stuck while trying to cut through a branch that was only about 3 inches thick and zombies have that whole moving thing that will make kickback much more likely, not to mention all the maintenance issues with trying to keep your melee weapon running, run out of gas or oil, (or in this case battery) its worthless, if that chain breaks or comes off it's track it's worthless. your melee weapon shouldn't require as much upkeep as your gun.
also flame throwers for zombies is a bad idea, zombies don't feel pain, and sure it will cook the brain but that won't be instant so it leaves you dealing with flaming zombies for a bit and that to me is a whole lot more terrifying.
i can't argue against the mounted mini-gun provided it's mounted out of reach of the zombies in a well fortified position, but i assume that pretty much goes without saying.

sorry to rant but i take zombie survival very seriously.

Sorry I had to break up your quotes. Seems your "enter" button didn't survive the ghouls. ;)

"well my assumption in zombie apocalypse is that the best route to survival is avoiding confrontation with the enemy (when possible) this means not drawing more of them to you when you have to eliminate some, sure I'll breath/trip or bump into something but I'm quite sure
that sound won't carry nearly as far as a chainsaw and rifle fire."

That's kind of a given. Hence my idea about proximity being a bigger threat. If it's teeth aren't near you...

"now this gun would be great if shit did hit the fan and you have no other option but to blast your way out (though I'd much rather have an under-mounted shotgun in place of that chainsaw), but as for it being my primary weapon in zombie scenarios I'd prefer something that draws less attention, especially if you're following original zombie lore where a single bite, or scratch is all it takes to get turned. (infected bodily fluid meets your blood = you just got infected)"

Er, well that's you, and I respect that. I like the punch through power of an AK-47, which at 7.62 will tear right through a door or a car.

"chainsaws seem good until you think about all the zombie blood flying at your face, if it is an infection then a drop of that gets in your mouth or eye and you're likely the next brain eater."

Chainsaw's a hold-out and has tertiary functions as a tool. I'd probably start using the butt of the rifle before I used the chainsaw, and if I was going to be using it I wouldn't be opening my mouth wide and whatnot.

However, if I was in a position where I could reach down and just take a crack at a brain I'd definitely do it. Trapped in a stairwell, for instance.

"your melee weapon shouldn't require as much upkeep as your gun."

It'd run out fast, but I'd rather have one and not need it while in the space of an elevator than not. By the time you're in melee mode you're already in trouble.

"also flame throwers for zombies is a bad idea, zombies don't feel pain, and sure it will cook the brain but that won't be instant so it leaves you dealing with flaming zombies for a bit and that to me is a whole lot more terrifying."

In the Romero cannon zombies are scared of fire. This comes up in both Night and Dawn IIRC, and burning your dead is always a good idea. Also, and I don't see this in a lot of series, people forget that FIRE BURNS AWAY MUSCLE AND FAT and spreads fairly easily. No muscle to move jaws? No snappy-snappy. Even if it just slows them down, well, it slows them down, and napalm is underused in zombie shows. I'd rather face a bunch of immobile near-skeletons than a group of fully ambulatory walkers.

"i can't argue against the mounted mini-gun provided it's mounted out of reach of the zombies in a well fortified position, but i assume that pretty much goes without saying."

Well, I can't say you didn't nail all my weak spots there.

But I just require a little finesse when surviving, with all the emotion stress involved. I also never meant to say not to have a gun, just that Zombies can be taken care of without one. But now I just wanna say the best course is having a private island to retreat to.

"Sorry I had to break up your quotes. Seems your "enter" button didn't survive the ghouls. ;)"

yea sorry about that, got too into the topic lol

""well my assumption in zombie apocalypse is that the best route to survival is avoiding confrontation with the enemy (when possible) this means not drawing more of them to you when you have to eliminate some, sure I'll breath/trip or bump into something but I'm quite sure
that sound won't carry nearly as far as a chainsaw and rifle fire.""

"That's kind of a given. Hence my idea about proximity being a bigger threat. If it's teeth aren't near you..."

the farther the noise carries the more zombies start heading towards you, and then your proximity becomes a bigger issue.

""now this gun would be great if shit did hit the fan and you have no other option but to blast your way out (though I'd much rather have an under-mounted shotgun in place of that chainsaw), but as for it being my primary weapon in zombie scenarios I'd prefer something that draws less attention, especially if you're following original zombie lore where a single bite, or scratch is all it takes to get turned. (infected bodily fluid meets your blood = you just got infected)""

"Er, well that's you, and I respect that. I like the punch through power of an AK-47, which at 7.62 will tear right through a door or a car. "

i'm not against the AK at all it's a great reliable weapon, just put a silencer on the thing, i know it doesn't make it completely silent as movies would have you believe, but it will still help to not draw extra attention

"Chainsaw's a hold-out and has tertiary functions as a tool. I'd probably start using the butt of the rifle before I used the chainsaw, and if I was going to be using it I wouldn't be opening my mouth wide and whatnot. "

right but are you planning to keep those eyes closed while in close combat with a zombie, and with the amount of blood a chainsaw would be throwing it's not like you'd have to be open wide, infection through blood contact is always gonna be a concern so why give yourself a bigger risk? plus kickback issues still stands. you're just as likely to take yourself out with a chainsaw as you are to take out a zombie, it doubling as a tool is why I'd go ax (preferably fire ax) over machete. still able to be used for most of the things a chainsaw can do with far less upkeep and far less noise.

"However, if I was in a position where I could reach down and just take a crack at a brain I'd definitely do it. Trapped in a stairwell, for instance.'

again just as easy with an ax with far less noise.

"It'd run out fast, but I'd rather have one and not need it while in the space of an elevator than not. By the time you're in melee mode you're already in trouble."

agreed on the if you're in melee you're already in trouble but chainsaw in elevator again goes back to kickback issue if you swing a chainsaw into a crowd of zombie it's not gonna be the hot knife vs. butter effect you see in movies you're gonna hit bone and one of two things will happen it will kick back at you, or it will go partially in and get stuck. if you're facing down a single walker you're probably ok any more and you just gave them a huge opening on you.

""also flame throwers for zombies is a bad idea, zombies don't feel pain, and sure it will cook the brain but that won't be instant so it leaves you dealing with flaming zombies for a bit and that to me is a whole lot more terrifying.""

"In the Romero cannon zombies are scared of fire. This comes up in both Night and Dawn IIRC, and burning your dead is always a good idea. Also, and I don't see this in a lot of series, people forget that FIRE BURNS AWAY MUSCLE AND FAT and spreads fairly easily. No muscle to move jaws? No snappy-snappy. Even if it just slows them down, well, it slows them down, and napalm is underused in zombie shows. I'd rather face a bunch of immobile near-skeletons than a group of fully ambulatory walkers."

yes it will burn away flesh and muscle but again not instantly, so the safety of this really relies on the range of your flamethrower, as for zombies being afraid of fire, that i cant really argue with i'd say 50/50 shot based on movie lore that it could happen, i don't hold too firm to Romero cannon after land of the dead with zombies learning to use tools and guns...

burning the dead is in fact a great idea. but can be done just as effectively and much more safely with gasoline and a lighter after the chance of them grabbing a hold of you while on fire is gone.

""as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy..."

Thats a very good point. A, melee weapons break less often than guns run out of ammo. B, It may be easier to find a new object to hit zombies with than ammo for your gun.

Also, reserve your gun ammo for non-zombie raiders, who actually are able to use guns on you, unlike zombies. That is saying they are your average run of the mill zombies. But thats another discussion."

that's a good point but also consider that going to close range combat is suicide for you might miss or some zombies might come behind u and leave a nice little mark, so yeah silenced weapon for me XD

"""as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy..."

Thats a very good point. A, melee weapons break less often than guns run out of ammo. B, It may be easier to find a new object to hit zombies with than ammo for your gun.

Also, reserve your gun ammo for non-zombie raiders, who actually are able to use guns on you, unlike zombies. That is saying they are your average run of the mill zombies. But thats another discussion."

that's a good point but also consider that going to close range combat is suicide for you might miss or some zombies might come behind u and leave a nice little mark, so yeah silenced weapon for me XD"

Thats where strategy and tactics come in. Plus some people may be trained more in close range than guns. But I'm just speculating for the hell of it.

Everyone has their own style and plan.

My dream load-out would have the basic requirements of a sniper rifle, and a sword, preferably eastern, but i doubt that would be a wise choice, seeing how kendo wasn't made for zombies. And if i was lucky Id have a P90 for emergencies. I already mentioned that though.

People always talk about "I want a sword an and axe!"

Go out and swing a sword or an ax for an hour. See if your shoulders aren't in their own personal hell for the next 3-6 days.

Now imagine getting get enough to fight off a dozen zombies at once.

That rifle is lookin' pretty good now, isn't it? :)

"People always talk about "I want a sword an and axe!"

Go out and swing a sword or an ax for an hour. See if your shoulders aren't in their own personal hell for the next 3-6 days.

Now imagine getting get enough to fight off a dozen zombies at once.

That rifle is lookin' pretty good now, isn't it? :)"

as i said the rifle is fine, just add a silencer, the AK is one of the most customizable guns ever made why not take advantage of that.

and as for swinging an ax for an hour, if I'm in a situation where it takes an hour of melee to get out of it i must have already screwed up big time, maybe by making a lot of noise to draw the horde towards me. again ideal situation is to avoid combat, i never said ax would be my primary weapon, just my first choice for melee well over chainsaw on the list of practical weapons for zombie killing, a gun is a must i wont argue that at all if you don't have a gun you're begging to be eaten.

"People always talk about "I want a sword an and axe!"

Go out and swing a sword or an ax for an hour. See if your shoulders aren't in their own personal hell for the next 3-6 days.

Now imagine getting get enough to fight off a dozen zombies at once.

That rifle is lookin' pretty good now, isn't it? :)"

Thats what proper kendo technique is for. Swinging a sword for 2-4 hours. But I am only defending myself and will accept it that was a rhetorical comment, I do agree the whole "sword and gun' thing is over rated and that yes, practically your going to die, but your chances aren't good to begin with.

If you REALLY want to solve your problems... CLAYMORES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDqaeMGMAWk&feature=related

I second that.. [Me]<--Too much BF3

""""as cool as that gun is in a zombie apocalypse situation i'll take an ax and something with a silencer over anything that includes a chainsaw, noise is the enemy..."

Thats a very good point. A, melee weapons break less often than guns run out of ammo. B, It may be easier to find a new object to hit zombies with than ammo for your gun.

Also, reserve your gun ammo for non-zombie raiders, who actually are able to use guns on you, unlike zombies. That is saying they are your average run of the mill zombies. But thats another discussion."

that's a good point but also consider that going to close range combat is suicide for you might miss or some zombies might come behind u and leave a nice little mark, so yeah silenced weapon for me XD"

Thats where strategy and tactics come in. Plus some people may be trained more in close range than guns. But I'm just speculating for the hell of it.

Everyone has their own style and plan.

My dream load-out would have the basic requirements of a sniper rifle, and a sword, preferably eastern, but i doubt that would be a wise choice, seeing how kendo wasn't made for zombies. And if i was lucky Id have a P90 for emergencies. I already mentioned that though."

true but also many people don't think tactically about these things so in some sense it's pretty much guerrilla warfare to some extent. You can think about tactics and such but many melee weapons won't work against groups of the undead, well it will but you will be writing your death wish. The fact of the matter is that zombies are close to each other if 1 zombie is alone expect a few more around. So melee would be hard to do and risky none the less, but hey good luck out there XD

For clearing an on coming horde, M58 MICLIC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU33PrFJI4Q

"If you REALLY want to solve your problems... CLAYMORES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDqaeMGMAWk&feature=related"

this i agree with, take out some walkers and the blast will draw others to where the claymore is instead of where you are.

Riddick's Ulaks from the Chronicles of Riddick o_o

"Riddick's Ulaks from the Chronicles of Riddick o_o"

Wait we can list guns that don't exist?

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